Discussion:
Churchhill's Concern About Influx of Negroes
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Rodin
2007-08-06 18:13:46 UTC
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Churchill, like many other knowledgeable leaders, was well
aware of the socially destructive consequences of a Negro
population living within a white country. This was in an era
before the white elite decided to use mass coloured immig-
gration as a tool to balkanise and divide & conquer their
own people.
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What Churchill said about Britain's immigrants

David Smith

Sunday August 5, 2007

The Observer

Sir Winston Churchill expressed alarm about an influx of
'coloured people' in Fifties' Britain and looked for a chance to
restore punishment by flogging, newly released cabinet papers
from the national archive reveal.

On 3 February 1954, under the agenda item 'Coloured Workers',
Churchill is quoted, with abbreviations, by Cabinet Secretary Sir
Norman Brook as saying: 'Problems wh. will arise if many coloured
people settle here. Are we to saddle ourselves with colour
problems in UK? Attracted by Welfare State. Public opinion in UK
won't tolerate it once it gets beyond certain limits.'

Florence Horsbrugh, the then Minister of Education and
Conservative MP for Manchester Moss Side, is recorded as adding:
'Already becoming serious in Manchr.'

Then David Maxwell-Fyfe, the Home Secretary, gave a figure of
40,000 compared to 7,000 before the Second World War and raised
the possibility of immigration control. He said: 'There is a case
on merits for excludg. riff-raff. But politically it wd. be
represented & discussed on basis of colour limitation. That wd.
offend the floating vote viz., the old Liberals. We shd. be
reversing age-long trad[ition] tht. B[ritish] S[ubjects] have
right of entry to mother-country of Empire. We shd. offend
Liberals, also sentimentalists.'

He added: 'The col[onial]. pop[ulations] are resented in
L[iverpool], Paddington & other areas by those who come into
contact with them. But those who don't are apt to take a more
Liberal view.'

Churchill intervened: 'Ques. is wtr it is politically wise to
allow public feeling to develop a little more before takg.
action.'

Adding that it would be 'fatal' to let the situation develop too
far, the Prime Minister is recorded as concluding: 'Wd lke also
to study possibility of "quota" - no. not to be exceeded.'


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2142098,00.html
Terrance Phillips
2007-08-06 19:00:22 UTC
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Post by Rodin
Churchill, like many other knowledgeable leaders,
He was also a gambling addict who held great debts and a booze hound.

Iconic, indeed. But hardly someone who people found by their opinions to
be infallible and always worth following.
John King
2007-08-06 22:23:40 UTC
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He changed political parties a number of times and drank heavily and was fat
and smoked carcinogens. Was responsible for the disastrous Turkish campaign
in WW1 which completely failed. He escaped from a South African
concentration camp during the Boer War. He also predicted Hitler's
blitzkrieg and was against appeasement now regarded as a total failure but
popular at the time. Led England to victory and predicted the Iron Curtain
and the negative consequences of Communism.
He seems to have been concerned about negro immigration and realized he
needed to know public opinion on the issue and one of his Cabinet ministers
pointed out that policy said British subjects were allowed in. Fact is race
relations were far better in England than in the USA and the number of
"negroes" increased while Churchill was in power.
Churchill knew all about invading Iraq as well.

Britain granted independence to Iraq in 1932. on the urging of King Faisal,
though the British retained military bases and transit rights for their
forces. King Ghazi of Iraq ruled as a figurehead after King Faisal's death
in 1933, while undermined by attempted military coups, until his death in
1939. The United Kingdom (under Churchill) invaded Iraq in 1941, for fear
that the government of Rashid Ali might cut oil supplies to Western
nations, and because of his strong ideological leanings to Nazi Germany. A
military occupation followed the restoration of the Hashemite monarchy and
the occupation ended on October 26, 1947.
Avenger
2007-08-07 00:32:42 UTC
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Post by John King
He changed political parties a number of times and drank heavily and was fat
and smoked carcinogens.
And he died at age 90 lol


Was responsible for the disastrous Turkish campaign
Post by John King
in WW1 which completely failed. He escaped from a South African
concentration camp during the Boer War. He also predicted Hitler's
blitzkrieg and was against appeasement now regarded as a total failure but
popular at the time. Led England to victory and predicted the Iron Curtain
and the negative consequences of Communism.
He seems to have been concerned about negro immigration and realized he
needed to know public opinion on the issue and one of his Cabinet ministers
pointed out that policy said British subjects were allowed in.
Big mistake.

Fact is race
Post by John King
relations were far better in England than in the USA
Not really.


and the number of
Post by John King
"negroes" increased while Churchill was in power.
Erm, Churchill died in 1965 and I can never recall seeing a Negro as a boy.
Post by John King
Churchill knew all about invading Iraq as well.
Britain granted independence to Iraq in 1932. on the urging of King Faisal,
though the British retained military bases and transit rights for their
forces. King Ghazi of Iraq ruled as a figurehead after King Faisal's death
in 1933, while undermined by attempted military coups, until his death in
1939. The United Kingdom (under Churchill) invaded Iraq in 1941, for fear
that the government of Rashid Ali might cut oil supplies to Western
nations, and because of his strong ideological leanings to Nazi Germany. A
military occupation followed the restoration of the Hashemite monarchy and
the occupation ended on October 26, 1947.
Duncan Patton
2007-08-07 00:48:37 UTC
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:32:42 GMT
Fact is race
relations were far better in England than in the USA
Not really.
Go see "Braveheart". Not much for historical accuracy except at
the grossest level, but you get the picture.

Dhu
Greg Carr
2007-08-07 03:28:55 UTC
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Were talking 7k to 40k out of how many million ppl. No KKK and lynching of
blacks.
Post by Avenger
Post by John King
He changed political parties a number of times and drank heavily and was fat
and smoked carcinogens.
And he died at age 90 lol
Was responsible for the disastrous Turkish campaign
Post by John King
in WW1 which completely failed. He escaped from a South African
concentration camp during the Boer War. He also predicted Hitler's
blitzkrieg and was against appeasement now regarded as a total failure but
popular at the time. Led England to victory and predicted the Iron Curtain
and the negative consequences of Communism.
He seems to have been concerned about negro immigration and realized he
needed to know public opinion on the issue and one of his Cabinet ministers
pointed out that policy said British subjects were allowed in.
Big mistake.
Fact is race
Post by John King
relations were far better in England than in the USA
Not really.
and the number of
Post by John King
"negroes" increased while Churchill was in power.
Erm, Churchill died in 1965 and I can never recall seeing a Negro as a boy.
Post by John King
Churchill knew all about invading Iraq as well.
Britain granted independence to Iraq in 1932. on the urging of King Faisal,
though the British retained military bases and transit rights for their
forces. King Ghazi of Iraq ruled as a figurehead after King Faisal's death
in 1933, while undermined by attempted military coups, until his death in
1939. The United Kingdom (under Churchill) invaded Iraq in 1941, for fear
that the government of Rashid Ali might cut oil supplies to Western
nations, and because of his strong ideological leanings to Nazi Germany. A
military occupation followed the restoration of the Hashemite monarchy and
the occupation ended on October 26, 1947.
Aryen
2007-08-07 12:16:39 UTC
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Post by Avenger
He changed political parties a number of times and drank heavily and was fat
and smoked carcinogens.
And he died at age 90 lol
Died as a stroked out, drooling vegetable.

A lot like most conservatives in their prime.
Greg Carr
2007-08-07 03:27:33 UTC
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Thanks for the reminder :-)
Post by John King
He changed political parties a number of times and drank heavily and was fat
and smoked carcinogens. Was responsible for the disastrous Turkish campaign
in WW1 which completely failed. He escaped from a South African
concentration camp during the Boer War. He also predicted Hitler's
blitzkrieg and was against appeasement now regarded as a total failure but
popular at the time. Led England to victory and predicted the Iron Curtain
and the negative consequences of Communism.
He seems to have been concerned about negro immigration and realized he
needed to know public opinion on the issue and one of his Cabinet ministers
pointed out that policy said British subjects were allowed in. Fact is race
relations were far better in England than in the USA and the number of
"negroes" increased while Churchill was in power.
Churchill knew all about invading Iraq as well.
Britain granted independence to Iraq in 1932. on the urging of King Faisal,
though the British retained military bases and transit rights for their
forces. King Ghazi of Iraq ruled as a figurehead after King Faisal's death
in 1933, while undermined by attempted military coups, until his death in
1939. The United Kingdom (under Churchill) invaded Iraq in 1941, for fear
that the government of Rashid Ali might cut oil supplies to Western
nations, and because of his strong ideological leanings to Nazi Germany. A
military occupation followed the restoration of the Hashemite monarchy and
the occupation ended on October 26, 1947.
Roger
2007-08-07 11:55:48 UTC
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Churchill was a conservative.
Post by Rodin
Churchill, like many other knowledgeable leaders, was well
aware of the socially destructive consequences of a Negro
population living within a white country. This was in an era
before the white elite decided to use mass coloured immig-
gration as a tool to balkanise and divide & conquer their
own people.
************
What Churchill said about Britain's immigrants
David Smith
Sunday August 5, 2007
The Observer
Sir Winston Churchill expressed alarm about an influx of
'coloured people' in Fifties' Britain and looked for a chance to
restore punishment by flogging, newly released cabinet papers
from the national archive reveal.
On 3 February 1954, under the agenda item 'Coloured Workers',
Churchill is quoted, with abbreviations, by Cabinet Secretary Sir
Norman Brook as saying: 'Problems wh. will arise if many coloured
people settle here. Are we to saddle ourselves with colour
problems in UK? Attracted by Welfare State. Public opinion in UK
won't tolerate it once it gets beyond certain limits.'
Florence Horsbrugh, the then Minister of Education and
'Already becoming serious in Manchr.'
Then David Maxwell-Fyfe, the Home Secretary, gave a figure of
40,000 compared to 7,000 before the Second World War and raised
the possibility of immigration control. He said: 'There is a case
on merits for excludg. riff-raff. But politically it wd. be
represented & discussed on basis of colour limitation. That wd.
offend the floating vote viz., the old Liberals. We shd. be
reversing age-long trad[ition] tht. B[ritish] S[ubjects] have
right of entry to mother-country of Empire. We shd. offend
Liberals, also sentimentalists.'
He added: 'The col[onial]. pop[ulations] are resented in
L[iverpool], Paddington & other areas by those who come into
contact with them. But those who don't are apt to take a more
Liberal view.'
Churchill intervened: 'Ques. is wtr it is politically wise to
allow public feeling to develop a little more before takg.
action.'
Adding that it would be 'fatal' to let the situation develop too
far, the Prime Minister is recorded as concluding: 'Wd lke also
to study possibility of "quota" - no. not to be exceeded.'
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2142098,00.html
Aryan
2007-08-07 17:52:40 UTC
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Post by Roger
Churchill was a conservative.
Well, that explains why he was so intelligent then.
Post by Roger
Post by Rodin
Churchill, like many other knowledgeable leaders, was well
aware of the socially destructive consequences of a Negro
population living within a white country. This was in an era
before the white elite decided to use mass coloured immig-
gration as a tool to balkanise and divide & conquer their
own people.
************
What Churchill said about Britain's immigrants
David Smith
Sunday August 5, 2007
The Observer
Sir Winston Churchill expressed alarm about an influx of
'coloured people' in Fifties' Britain and looked for a chance to
restore punishment by flogging, newly released cabinet papers
from the national archive reveal.
On 3 February 1954, under the agenda item 'Coloured Workers',
Churchill is quoted, with abbreviations, by Cabinet Secretary Sir
Norman Brook as saying: 'Problems wh. will arise if many coloured
people settle here. Are we to saddle ourselves with colour
problems in UK? Attracted by Welfare State. Public opinion in UK
won't tolerate it once it gets beyond certain limits.'
Florence Horsbrugh, the then Minister of Education and
'Already becoming serious in Manchr.'
Then David Maxwell-Fyfe, the Home Secretary, gave a figure of
40,000 compared to 7,000 before the Second World War and raised
the possibility of immigration control. He said: 'There is a case
on merits for excludg. riff-raff. But politically it wd. be
represented & discussed on basis of colour limitation. That wd.
offend the floating vote viz., the old Liberals. We shd. be
reversing age-long trad[ition] tht. B[ritish] S[ubjects] have
right of entry to mother-country of Empire. We shd. offend
Liberals, also sentimentalists.'
He added: 'The col[onial]. pop[ulations] are resented in
L[iverpool], Paddington & other areas by those who come into
contact with them. But those who don't are apt to take a more
Liberal view.'
Churchill intervened: 'Ques. is wtr it is politically wise to
allow public feeling to develop a little more before takg.
action.'
Adding that it would be 'fatal' to let the situation develop too
far, the Prime Minister is recorded as concluding: 'Wd lke also
to study possibility of "quota" - no. not to be exceeded.'
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2142098,00.html
3***@mail.com
2007-08-07 20:55:18 UTC
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Post by Aryan
Post by Roger
Churchill was a conservative.
Well, that explains why he was so intelligent then.
Hitler was a conservative with all the typical ailments like chronic
flatulence and perverted sexual desires that saw his niece squatting over
his face and defecating on him.
Dr. Lippschitz
2007-08-09 05:17:24 UTC
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Post by 3***@mail.com
Post by Aryan
Post by Roger
Churchill was a conservative.
Well, that explains why he was so intelligent then.
Hitler was a conservative with all the typical ailments like chronic
flatulence and perverted sexual desires that saw his niece squatting over
his face and defecating on him.
So you two had a lot in common then lol


But it was actually the jew Karl Marx who liked the London Ho's to shit in
his mouth. Jews just love farting and shit.
Antti Ylikoski
2007-08-09 11:34:19 UTC
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Post by Dr. Lippschitz
Post by 3***@mail.com
Post by Aryan
Post by Roger
Churchill was a conservative.
Well, that explains why he was so intelligent then.
Hitler was a conservative with all the typical ailments like chronic
flatulence and perverted sexual desires that saw his niece squatting over
his face and defecating on him.
So you two had a lot in common then lol
But it was actually the jew Karl Marx who liked the London Ho's to shit
in his mouth. Jews just love farting and shit.
Oh this "farting..." is silly..... As I said, is this "Lippschitz" a name
code?

Andy - S'dom & G'morh
jerk
2007-08-09 12:11:54 UTC
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Post by Antti Ylikoski
[quoted text muted]
But it was actually the jew Karl Marx who liked the London Ho's to shit
in his mouth. Jews just love farting and shit.
Oh this "farting..." is silly..... As I said, is this "Lippschitz" a name
code?
Churchill had American native blood in him, that's why he was defective and
genetically inferior to the white man.

A drunkard and a gambler.
Billy Bob
2007-08-09 20:05:30 UTC
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Post by Antti Ylikoski
[quoted text muted]
But it was actually the jew Karl Marx who liked the London Ho's to shit
in his mouth. Jews just love farting and shit.
Oh this "farting..." is silly..... As I said, is this "Lippschitz" a name
code?
Churchill had American native blood in him, that's why he was defective and
genetically inferior to the white man.

Churchill's mother had no Indian or jew blood you lyimg nigger.

A drunkard and a gambler.

Fred
2007-08-07 18:40:28 UTC
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Post by Rodin
He added: 'The col[onial]. pop[ulations] are resented in
L[iverpool], Paddington & other areas by those who come into
contact with them. But those who don't are apt to take a more
Liberal view.'
Lol,
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