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Zippy
2003-12-11 10:41:47 UTC
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NoMarriage.com


Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List


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Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.

5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
mevyhetal
2003-12-11 17:19:00 UTC
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Zippy <***@doodah.btinternet.com> wrote in news:br9hln$q6ti$***@ID-13547.news.uni-berlin.de:



Seen this already; It's not worth the time pursuing a girl looking for
all these qualities.
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
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Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
mevyhetal
2003-12-11 17:19:52 UTC
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Post by mevyhetal
Seen this already; It's not worth the time pursuing a girl looking for
all these qualities.
err, I meant to snip it
OB
2003-12-12 07:04:17 UTC
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Post by Zippy
Pierced ear(s) if any
Does that mean she doesn't mind a man with no ears, but if he has ears
they have to be pierced?

Bummer, that.
fnp.cc
2003-12-12 10:15:42 UTC
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Seen this already; a girl looking for
all these
qualities??!?
Post by Zippy
Rachel's "Perfect Guy"
childish Wish List is obviously ridiculous
Post by Zippy
Rachel is a real girlie. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical 'US' American woman.

Her Wish list simply reflects their poor culture... sounds like some
comparatively primitive strategies from the pentagon...
Robin Catfish
2003-12-14 09:42:02 UTC
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Post by mevyhetal
Seen this already; It's not worth the time pursuing a girl looking for
all these qualities.
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
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Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
ok (6'2")
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Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
ok
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Handsome
ok, sort of
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Muscular
yes
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Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
ok (194)
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Good sense of humor
ok
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Dimples
urp..no
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Cute laugh
not sure
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Sensitive
sometimes
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*Affectionate* in front of friends
yeah, to an extent
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Gives me lots of attention
sure
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Outgoing
sometimes
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Popular but doesn't know the whole state
ok
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Friends with my friends
don't know your friends
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Nice smile
ok
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Straight teeth
ok
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No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
doh! (beard)
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Pierced ear(s) if any
no
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Not too many tattoos if any
1
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Likes to cuddle
ok
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Likes to party
not to excess
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Takes me out
ok
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Grabs my hand to hold
ok
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Kisses me unexpectedly
ok
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Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
nope; blue jeans & flannel shirts
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Has a good job
yes
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Tells me he misses me when we're not together
ok
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Makes me laugh
I'm a funny guy
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Open minded
yes
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Polite
very
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Holds doors for me
yes
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Opens car doors
yes
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*Romantic*
a big sao for romance
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Likes all type of music
I hate rap/hip hop/& techno music
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Likes going to the movies
yes
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Talks to his friends about me
? sure
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Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
ok
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Gives massages without me having to ask
sure
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Plays with my hair
ok
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Calls me to just say hi
sure
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Tries not to argue
hate it
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Apologizes for when he does wrong
sure
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Says what he's feeling
sometimes
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Has a car
truck
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Has a dog
large friendly
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Has a family that likes me
they haven't met you
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Compliments me
ok
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Is tan
i'm outdoors a lot
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Doesn't curse all the time
nope, don't
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Wants to be with me as much as possible
do you like the outdoors?
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Comes over unexpectedly
ok
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Wakes me up with a kiss
love to
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Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
i'm 27
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*Trustworthy*
ok
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Patient
yes
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Likes to shop
for fishing gear
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Has good manners
always
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Doesn't smoke
no
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Occasionally drinks
yes
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Athletic
very
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Is on time for dates
yes
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Calls back later when he says he will
yes
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Lives close to me
?
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Wants to meet my family
sure
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Treats me like a princess
treat me like a prince?
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Has a cute butt
athletic
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Good kissable lips
? never kissed myself
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Good kisser
yes
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Good memory
summa cum laude
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Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
sure
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Intelligent
see summa cum laude
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Has direction
compass in truck
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Creative
sort of
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Likes everything about me
have to see you & get to know you
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Committed
to what?
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*My best friend*
hmmmm...
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Respectful
yes
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Mature
yes
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Persistent - Hard working
yes
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Likes walks on the beach
yes
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Likes just staying home sometimes
yes
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Writes me songs/poems
poems, bad ones
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Likes to dance
ok dancer
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Has a sexy voice
deep
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Cooks for me
salad & pan fried trout
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Likes to show me off
ok
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Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
ok
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Likes to take pictures
of fish
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Flirts with me in public and in private
sure
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Puts up with my mood swings
how extreme?
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Comforts me when I'm sad
sure
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Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
never do that
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Sticks up for me
yes
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Likes animals
yes
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Sends me flowers for no reason
sure
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Ignores my imperfections
how imperfect?
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Surprises me (good surprises)
ok
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Doesn't ever yell at me
don't yell
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Likes picnics
yes
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Likes to clean
clean what?
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First to say I Love You
sure
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Listens to me
ok
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Smells good
i bathe
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*Doesn't lie*
no
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Likes kids
sure
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Makes me the center of his world
maybe
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Not in trouble with the law
never
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Isn't a goody-goody
nope
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Doesn't stare at other girls
no
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Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
no
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Doodles our names on paper
? (I'm 27)
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Likes to draw
nope
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Leaves notes on my car
ok
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Let's me go out with him and his friends
sure
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Will hang out with me and my friends
sure
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Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
ok
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Gets jealous but not too jealous
maybe
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Dependable
very
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Doesn't hang up on me
too polite
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Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
if you like
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Calls me cute pet names
ok
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Isn't conceited
no
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Isn't a penny-pincher
yes, i am a little
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Likes sports and going to sports events
yes
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Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
don't play video games at all
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Doesn't play mind games
nope
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Doesn't just think about sex
do, don't talk
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Cares about world issues
yes (liberal)
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Doesn't make me cry
wouldn't
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Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
don't own a cell phone
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Isn't shy
define shy
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Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
many
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Not opinionated
very opinionated
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Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
ok
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Can spell
somntlimes

Gee, sorry, but you flunked my test back at Abercrombie & your dislike
of facial hair. Oh, and I don't have "dimples."

The Catfish
Robin Catfish
2003-12-14 18:38:39 UTC
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Post by Zippy
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
I like vaginas. I think they are beautiful & fascinating. Especially
when you find their little secret "place!" Some of you guys are
A-holes. Chicks are good! Me likey!

:)

Rob
Greg
2003-12-18 23:13:29 UTC
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Post by mevyhetal
Seen this already; It's not worth the time pursuing a girl looking for
all these qualities.
Interestingly, I often see women posting gigantic laundry lists of
what they want, but I've yet to see a woman post a list of what she
has or can offer.

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5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
And you are? <deafening silence>
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Good sense of humor
How would you recognize it?
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Dimples
Cute laugh
Ugh. He should be able to resist nausea if he'll have to listen to
that.

[...]
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Friends with my friends
Both of them?
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Nice smile
You'll be lucky to see it.
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Pierced ear(s) if any
You may be driven to adorn your unimpressive body, but don't expect
the same degree of insecurity from us.
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Kisses me unexpectedly
If you expect him to kiss you unexpectedly, he can't really .....
never mind.
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Has a good job
Why do you care about that? Did you want him to hire you?
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Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Does he also have to say it while he's banging someone else?
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Open minded
Bad move. If he recognizes the possibility of there being women
unlike you, you're sol.
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Holds doors for me
Especially the revolving ones.
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Opens car doors
How else is he supposed to get in?
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Likes all type of music
Even Sampa? (I guarantee you don't know what that is)
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Likes going to the movies
Well there's a tough one.
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Talks to his friends about me
Oh he'll do that. Trust me.
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Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
He'd prefer the top of your head.
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Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
You don't want a man. You want a girlfriend with a penis.
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Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
That's the most unrealistic you've been yet. And that's saying
something.
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Doesn't curse all the time
Just when he's telling you to shut up, bitch.
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Patient
Now why would _you_ need someone with patience?
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Has direction
Meaning? Do you want him to carry a compass?
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Likes everything about me
Or at least tells you he does.
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Respectful
Well, _someone_ has to respect you.
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Persistent - Hard working
Why do you care how hard he works? Do you expect to reap some
(gasp!!) financial reward from your relationship with him???
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Ignores my imperfections
Hypocrite. You certainly wouldn't ignore his.
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Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
So you want him to fight the Law and win?
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Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
I thought you wanted him to be friends with your friends. Guess who
most of your friends are.
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Gets jealous but not too jealous
Why would you want him to experience a negative emotion?
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Doesn't hang up on me
Completely unrealistic.
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Isn't conceited
You've enough conceit for two people.
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Isn't a penny-pincher
So you want a hard worker who has direction and isn't a penny pincher.
A rich man who gives you money, IOW.
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Likes sports and going to sports events
And will obediently stop when you tell him to stop.
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Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Can't you beat him?
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Cares about world issues
Because you certainly don't, and the world needs balance.
Tom Elliot
2003-12-19 00:30:46 UTC
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Post by mevyhetal
Seen this already; It's not worth the time pursuing a girl looking for
all these qualities.
Interestingly, I often see women posting gigantic laundry lists of
what they want, but I've yet to see a woman post a list of what she
has or can offer.
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Post by Zippy
Ignores my imperfections
Hypocrite. You certainly wouldn't ignore his.
Of course, she's your typical female. Her ideal man is supposed to have no
imperfections, even when she knows damn well that she herself has a laundry list of her
own imperfections and flaws. Sounds a lot like my ex-girlfriend ...
Zippy
2003-12-19 11:03:01 UTC
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Post by Tom Elliot
Sounds a lot like my ex-girlfriend ...
Did you really dump a girl like that? I wonder why...
Gray Loser
2003-12-19 02:58:11 UTC
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Post by mevyhetal
Seen this already; It's not worth the time pursuing a girl looking for
all these qualities.
Interestingly, I often see women posting gigantic laundry lists of
what they want, but I've yet to see a woman post a list of what she
has or can offer.
[Snipped]

Funny stuff, though I see nothing wrong with composing a "wish list"
of characteristics that your ideal partner would possess. It's like a
lot fantasizing about how you'd spend your money if you win the
lottery.

Personally, I'd never be nearly as picky as the woman who posted the
list, even in my fantasies, but that's probably influenced by my
"beggars can't be choosers" mindset.
eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
2003-12-19 03:40:10 UTC
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Post by Gray Loser
Personally, I'd never be nearly as picky as the woman who posted the
list, even in my fantasies, but that's probably influenced by my
"beggars can't be choosers" mindset.
I used to think that, but lately I realized that even I have
standards...who probably shouldn't.
Michaela
2003-12-19 09:38:16 UTC
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Post by Gray Loser
Personally, I'd never be nearly as picky as the woman who posted the
list, even in my fantasies, but that's probably influenced by my
"beggars can't be choosers" mindset.
I used to think that, but lately I realized that even I have
standards...who probably shouldn't.
Standards or prejudices?

The guy who took us for meditation a month ago told
us he had recently had to start eating meat for health
reasons and he suddenly realised that he'd always felt
superior to people who ate meat. He had never even
realised his prejudices until then.

- Michaela
Zippy
2003-12-19 11:08:17 UTC
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Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Post by Gray Loser
Personally, I'd never be nearly as picky as the woman who posted the
list, even in my fantasies, but that's probably influenced by my
"beggars can't be choosers" mindset.
I used to think that, but lately I realized that even I have
standards...who probably shouldn't.
Standards or prejudices?
So when a man has standards it's just his anti-female prejudices
showing? Typical feminazi hate-speech.
Post by Michaela
The guy who took us for meditation a month ago told
us he had recently had to start eating meat for health
reasons and he suddenly realised that he'd always felt
superior to people who ate meat. He had never even
realised his prejudices until then.
And you still haven't realised what a fuckwit you are for going to
"meditation" classes? Especially ones run by some git who's too stupid
to eat?
Post by Michaela
- Michaela
arie
2003-12-19 12:31:15 UTC
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Post by Gray Loser
Personally, I'd never be nearly as picky as the woman who posted the
list, even in my fantasies, but that's probably influenced by my
"beggars can't be choosers" mindset.
I used to think that, but lately I realized that even I have
standards...who probably shouldn't.
Standards or prejudices?
So when a man has standards it's just his anti-female prejudices
showing? Typical feminazi hate-speech.
I think you misinterpret him. Prejudice has a way of making itself look like
"standards".
Post by Zippy
Post by Michaela
The guy who took us for meditation a month ago told
us he had recently had to start eating meat for health
reasons and he suddenly realised that he'd always felt
superior to people who ate meat. He had never even
realised his prejudices until then.
And you still haven't realised what a fuckwit you are for going to
"meditation" classes?
Meditation works great on dealing with frustration. You might wanna try it
some day.
Post by Zippy
Especially ones run by some git who's too stupid
to eat?
Only too stupid to eat meat, that's all.
Post by Zippy
Post by Michaela
- Michaela
eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
2003-12-19 12:47:10 UTC
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gles,soc.men
Zippy wrote in message ...
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Post by Michaela
Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Post by Gray Loser
Personally, I'd never be nearly as picky as the woman who posted
the list, even in my fantasies, but that's probably influenced by
my "beggars can't be choosers" mindset.
I used to think that, but lately I realized that even I have
standards...who probably shouldn't.
Standards or prejudices?
So when a man has standards it's just his anti-female prejudices
showing? Typical feminazi hate-speech.
Something stuck in your craw?
I think you misinterpret him. Prejudice has a way of making itself
look like "standards".
More of an argument about semantics, since the only person without
"standards" would have to be more or less brain-dead.

Dutch Warmongerer!
arie
2003-12-19 13:01:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: She doesn't want much in a man...
alt.love,alt.romance,alt.support.loneliness,alt.support.shyness,soc.sin
gles,soc.men
Zippy wrote in message ...
Post by Zippy
Post by Michaela
Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Post by Gray Loser
Personally, I'd never be nearly as picky as the woman who posted
the list, even in my fantasies, but that's probably influenced by
my "beggars can't be choosers" mindset.
I used to think that, but lately I realized that even I have
standards...who probably shouldn't.
Standards or prejudices?
So when a man has standards it's just his anti-female prejudices
showing? Typical feminazi hate-speech.
Something stuck in your craw?
I think you misinterpret him. Prejudice has a way of making itself
look like "standards".
More of an argument about semantics, since the only person without
"standards" would have to be more or less brain-dead.
Yep. To keep the argument going, i say it's better to become aware of your
"standards" than to blindly stick to them eternally.
Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Dutch Warmongerer!
Big Fat Muslim Beating Burger Stuffing Cokeslurping Imperialist Cowboy!
eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
2003-12-19 13:20:45 UTC
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Post by arie
Yep. To keep the argument going, i say it's better to become aware of
your "standards" than to blindly stick to them eternally.
Quite. Replace 'smarter than me or smarter' (!!), replace with 'knows what
a fork is used for.'
Post by arie
Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Dutch Warmongerer!
Keep your paws off our cinnamon & nutmeg!
Post by arie
Big Fat Muslim Beating Burger Stuffing Cokeslurping Imperialist Cowboy!
Well the 'fat' is more or less apt. Are we talking above or below 90%
adipose of body weight?
arie
2003-12-19 14:00:44 UTC
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eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability wrote in message ...
Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Post by arie
Yep. To keep the argument going, i say it's better to become aware of
your "standards" than to blindly stick to them eternally.
Quite. Replace 'smarter than me or smarter' (!!), replace with 'knows what
a fork is used for.'
You do?
Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Post by arie
Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Dutch Warmongerer!
Keep your paws off our cinnamon & nutmeg!
mmmmmmmine.... MMMMIIIINNNEEEE!!!!
Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Post by arie
Big Fat Muslim Beating Burger Stuffing Cokeslurping Imperialist Cowboy!
Well the 'fat' is more or less apt.
What, you don't beat muslims? What kind of a yank are you, anyway?
Post by eerie rodent of unusual size & typing ability
Are we talking above or below 90%
adipose of body weight?
If things keep going according to plan, humanity will split into two
different species: the Homo Yankius, adipose 90%, and Homo Sapiens, water
90%. History books in the 25th century will read: During the 21st century,
while the sea level was rising, the Homo Yankius increased it's chance of
survival this natural catastrophe by stuffing itself with lipids. With this
wonderfully intelligent behaviour they outsmarted the Homo Sapiens, which
went extinct around 2030. Hallelujah!
Nutmegger
2003-12-19 21:27:44 UTC
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Keep your paws off our cinnamon & nutmeg!
!!!
Michaela
2003-12-20 23:34:48 UTC
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Post by Gray Loser
Personally, I'd never be nearly as picky as the woman who posted the
list, even in my fantasies, but that's probably influenced by my
"beggars can't be choosers" mindset.
I used to think that, but lately I realized that even I have
standards...who probably shouldn't.
Standards or prejudices?
So when a man has standards it's just his anti-female prejudices
showing? Typical feminazi hate-speech.
For the record I have these standards-come-prejudices too. It's what
to do about them that's confusing.

- Michaela
Greg
2003-12-19 22:27:16 UTC
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Post by Gray Loser
Post by Greg
Post by mevyhetal
Seen this already; It's not worth the time pursuing a girl looking for
all these qualities.
Interestingly, I often see women posting gigantic laundry lists of
what they want, but I've yet to see a woman post a list of what she
has or can offer.
[Snipped]
Funny stuff, though I see nothing wrong with composing a "wish list"
of characteristics that your ideal partner would possess. It's like a
lot fantasizing about how you'd spend your money if you win the
lottery.
True. There's a bit of wishing going on in this one's list, but
whereas your wish list would include boats, houses, a chopper, etc,
her's involves human beings, and human beings on whom she would impose
greatly. Your house won't have its feelings hurt because it's not the
gigantic mansion you'd rather have. She may hurt her man's feelings
when she subtly lets him know that he's not the big, buff, rich stud
she'd like him to be.
Post by Gray Loser
Personally, I'd never be nearly as picky as the woman who posted the
list, even in my fantasies, but that's probably influenced by my
"beggars can't be choosers" mindset.
Ahh, but you aren't the beggar. They're the beggars. You're
competing to be the one whose windsheild they wash without asking.
Why? Have you ever read _The Manipulated Man_ by Esther Vilar?

Try this mindset: You'll look for exactly what you want. If you
don't find her, you won't have anything, and you'll find joy in other
areas of life.

One of my coworkers thinks it's some sort of problem that I have no
girlfriend. Now it seems the receptionist has a thing for me, and
when my coworker told me of this, I shrugged it off. In the first
place, I did not find her attractive. In the second, one should never
dip his quill in the company ink. "You see? You're the problem." he
said. To that, I say, "What problem?" Why is it a problem if I won't
take out some woman I don't even like just so I can have a girlfriend?
(Rhetorical question)

To me, the bigger problem is that a lot of men think they must. They
think it's unnatural and problematic to be without someone. Wrong.
(By the way, in whose interest is it for men to think this?)

Still another of my friends told me that I should marry in order to
enhance my career, because I'd work harder with a family to support.
Well of course I would, but for whom?

Then another of my friends told me of seeing a guy outside a video
game shop, holding a game, and acting very excited that he was about
to go home and play his game. This man would be called "nerd" or
"loser," but why? He's using the fruit of his labor to do something
he likes. What could be wrong with that?

The attitude of this society toward men needs serious adjusting.
Zippy
2003-12-20 08:22:17 UTC
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Post by Greg
Then another of my friends told me of seeing a guy outside a video
game shop, holding a game, and acting very excited that he was about
to go home and play his game. This man would be called "nerd" or
"loser," but why? He's using the fruit of his labor to do something
he likes. What could be wrong with that?
Isn't it strange that nobody would have called a female a loser if
she'd been seen outside a jewellery or shoe shop?
Post by Greg
The attitude of this society toward men needs serious adjusting.
And only men can adjust it.
c_chance9
2003-12-19 21:55:44 UTC
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Does anyone know the URL to the website? Is there a picture of our
high standard woman?

cc
Post by Ovid
Thanks for the website!
-O
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
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Post by Zippy
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Ovid
2003-12-11 17:40:17 UTC
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Thanks for the website!
-O
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
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Post by Zippy
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
c_chance9
2003-12-19 21:54:22 UTC
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Does anyone know the URL to the website? Is there a picture of our
high standard woman?

cc
Post by Ovid
Thanks for the website!
-O
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
Post by Zippy
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Little Monster
2003-12-11 18:33:11 UTC
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Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is a
typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on the
list simply because she has vagina.
[snip]

I don't see why this should be too difficult for most "regular jock's"
(pardon if I have used the term incorrectly, it is american I think)
physique notwithstanding - there are a couple of things that might take a
bit of effort, such as liking (female) shopping for example. I mean,
really, how many guys can honestly say that (pysique notwithstanding) more
than, say, ten things on the list are beyond them? She's describing what
*I* call a "Nice Guy" (unlike the poor fellow described in "A Womans
Thoughts on "Nice Guys"", earlier -uhhg!)

Monster
--
Of course I can! I'm British.
Xyzzy
2003-12-12 00:38:17 UTC
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Post by Little Monster
I don't see why this should be too difficult for most "regular jock's"
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
That's no problem.

But the problem is the fine line that "good" men are expected to walk --
Post by Little Monster
Post by Zippy
Says what he's feeling
Doesn't ever yell at me
Isn't shy
Isn't conceited
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
(pardon if I have used the term incorrectly, it is american I think)
physique notwithstanding - there are a couple of things that might take a
bit of effort, such as liking (female) shopping for example. I mean,
really, how many guys can honestly say that (pysique notwithstanding) more
than, say, ten things on the list are beyond them? She's describing what
*I* call a "Nice Guy" (unlike the poor fellow described in "A Womans
Thoughts on "Nice Guys"", earlier -uhhg!)
Monster
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
2003-12-12 01:06:29 UTC
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Post by Xyzzy
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
That's no problem.
I do wonder about this. With central power locks, is this really necessary?
If I was a girl, I'd be thinking to myself "Dude! How come you can't afford
a decent car with central locking?". Maybe this is because I'm thinking like
a guy :) So, do you open the door for her and risk her thinking you haven't
got a good car with central locking, or do you unlock the door from the
driver's side and risk looking rude?
Nutmegger
2003-12-12 01:18:41 UTC
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"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Post by Xyzzy
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
That's no problem.
I do wonder about this. With central power locks, is this really necessary?
No, not really.
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
If I was a girl, I'd be thinking to myself "Dude! How come you can't afford
a decent car with central locking?". Maybe this is because I'm thinking like
a guy :)
Well then I must think like a guy too because I thought the same thing!
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
So, do you open the door for her and risk her thinking you haven't
got a good car with central locking, or do you unlock the door from the
driver's side and risk looking rude?
Recently, a man who does have central locking opened my door for me first,
but then I was trying to figure out how to open his for him and I pressed
the wrong button and locked him out. So much for that.
It did impress me though, that he thought of doing it regardless, although
even if he just used his central locking that would've been fine too.
Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
2003-12-12 01:43:38 UTC
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Post by Nutmegger
"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
If I was a girl, I'd be thinking to myself "Dude! How come you can't
afford a decent car with central locking?". Maybe this is because
I'm thinking like a guy :)
Well then I must think like a guy too because I thought the same thing!
Pfffttt, I bet you change your own engine oil too :b
Post by Nutmegger
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
So, do you open the door for her and risk her thinking you haven't
got a good car with central locking, or do you unlock the door from
the driver's side and risk looking rude?
Recently, a man who does have central locking opened my door for me first,
but then I was trying to figure out how to open his for him and I pressed
the wrong button and locked him out. So much for that.
Oh well, at least you passed "The Test" :D Ever seen the film "A Bronx
Tale"? The mafia guy lends the kid his 1968 Cadillac DeVille convertible
(central locks were not standard equipment on those back then) to impress
his girlfriend. He tells the kid to open the door for her, and that he
should dump the girl for being selfish if she doesn't unlock his door for
him :D
Post by Nutmegger
It did impress me though, that he thought of doing it regardless, although
even if he just used his central locking that would've been fine too.
Ok, that's cleared it up for me if I ever find myself in that unlikely
situation! ;) I guess it would seem natural to open the door for her if you
both approach the car from the passenger side.

For your next social etiquette question...you're at a friend's house. He/she
brings out a small cake and cuts it into two unequal halves! Do you take the
big piece and look greedy, or do you take the small one and embarrass your
host? :D
Nutmegger
2003-12-12 02:08:06 UTC
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"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Post by Nutmegger
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
If I was a girl, I'd be thinking to myself "Dude! How come you can't
afford a decent car with central locking?". Maybe this is because
I'm thinking like a guy :)
Well then I must think like a guy too because I thought the same thing!
Pfffttt, I bet you change your own engine oil too :b
LOL, I would if I had the right wrench.
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Post by Nutmegger
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
So, do you open the door for her and risk her thinking you haven't
got a good car with central locking, or do you unlock the door from
the driver's side and risk looking rude?
Recently, a man who does have central locking opened my door for me first,
but then I was trying to figure out how to open his for him and I pressed
the wrong button and locked him out. So much for that.
Oh well, at least you passed "The Test" :D
Phew!
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Ever seen the film "A Bronx
Tale"? The mafia guy lends the kid his 1968 Cadillac DeVille convertible
(central locks were not standard equipment on those back then) to impress
his girlfriend. He tells the kid to open the door for her, and that he
should dump the girl for being selfish if she doesn't unlock his door for
him :D
I didn't see it, but it sounds like a good test. :-)
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Post by Nutmegger
It did impress me though, that he thought of doing it regardless, although
even if he just used his central locking that would've been fine too.
Ok, that's cleared it up for me if I ever find myself in that unlikely
situation! ;) I guess it would seem natural to open the door for her if you
both approach the car from the passenger side.
Sure it would.
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
For your next social etiquette question...you're at a friend's house. He/she
brings out a small cake and cuts it into two unequal halves! Do you take the
big piece and look greedy, or do you take the small one and embarrass your
host? :D
You always take the bigger one, you must never embarrass your host or
hostess. That is, if you are intending on eating it all! Otherwise, you
say: "Half of that piece is fine." And leave the rest for the host or
hostess.
Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
2003-12-12 05:08:47 UTC
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Post by Nutmegger
"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Post by Nutmegger
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
If I was a girl, I'd be thinking to myself "Dude! How come you can't
afford a decent car with central locking?". Maybe this is because
I'm thinking like a guy :)
Well then I must think like a guy too because I thought the same thing!
Pfffttt, I bet you change your own engine oil too :b
LOL, I would if I had the right wrench.
Well, I wouldn't change my own oil if I had a wench :D
Post by Nutmegger
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Ever seen the film "A Bronx Tale"? The mafia guy lends the kid his 1968
Cadillac DeVille convertible (central locks were not standard equipment
on those back then) to impress his girlfriend. He tells the kid to open
the door for her, and that he should dump the girl for being selfish if
she doesn't unlock his door for him :D
I didn't see it, but it sounds like a good test. :-)
Methinks you're biased, but locking the guy out must be a hazy signal
relationship-wise. At least you didn't accidentally release the parking
brake too :D
Nutmegger
2003-12-13 01:01:10 UTC
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"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Post by Nutmegger
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
and that he should dump the girl for being selfish if
she doesn't unlock his door for him :D
I didn't see it, but it sounds like a good test. :-)
Methinks you're biased,
Probably.
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
but locking the guy out must be a hazy signal
relationship-wise.
You know, it just doesn't occur to me when walking toward the car if he is
going to do this or not.
I see it like eating an icecream cone, something enjoyable I like. But,
having him unlock the door is like getting sprinkles on top.
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
At least you didn't accidentally release the parking
brake too :D
LOL.....
Michaela
2003-12-12 07:42:08 UTC
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"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Post by Nutmegger
"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
Recently, a man who does have central locking opened my door for me first,
but then I was trying to figure out how to open his for him and I pressed
the wrong button and locked him out. So much for that.
Oh well, at least you passed "The Test" :D
You have a very nice smile.

Ever seen the film "A Bronx
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Tale"? The mafia guy lends the kid his 1968 Cadillac DeVille convertible
(central locks were not standard equipment on those back then) to impress
his girlfriend. He tells the kid to open the door for her, and that he
should dump the girl for being selfish if she doesn't unlock his door for
him :D
I remember that being in a movie once (but can't remember
the movie) and also took it to heart.

I have my own little 'test'. I appreciate it if someone
comes round for coffee and they take their own cup to
the kitchen afterwards. Silly, Rnt eye?

- Michaela, butting in.
OB
2003-12-12 13:13:01 UTC
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Post by Michaela
I have my own little 'test'. I appreciate it if someone
comes round for coffee and they take their own cup to
the kitchen afterwards. Silly, Rnt eye?
I appreciate it if someone comes round for coffee.
Michaela
2003-12-12 22:48:33 UTC
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Post by OB
Post by Michaela
I have my own little 'test'. I appreciate it if someone
comes round for coffee and they take their own cup to
the kitchen afterwards. Silly, Rnt eye?
I appreciate it if someone comes round for coffee.
Only if they bring their own.

- Michaela
Nutmegger
2003-12-13 01:01:08 UTC
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Post by Michaela
I have my own little 'test'. I appreciate it if someone
comes round for coffee and they take their own cup to
the kitchen afterwards. Silly, Rnt eye?
- Michaela, butting in.
I have a test too, but not for people it is for restaurants. If they don't
serve their butter soft, then it isn't a very good place to eat at.
Michaela
2003-12-14 22:07:52 UTC
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Post by Nutmegger
Post by Michaela
I have my own little 'test'. I appreciate it if someone
comes round for coffee and they take their own cup to
the kitchen afterwards. Silly, Rnt eye?
- Michaela, butting in.
I have a test too, but not for people it is for restaurants.
People own restaurants. : - P

If they
Post by Nutmegger
don't serve their butter soft, then it isn't a very good place to eat
at.
Aren't we all funny creatures?

- Michaela
Victorhntr
2003-12-16 23:52:27 UTC
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If they don't serve their butter soft, then it isn't a >very good place to eat
at.

I get pissed when the don't butter the toast to the edges. Why is that so
damned hard for them to do?
Steve Chaney, NR's Tormentor ®
2003-12-12 04:46:27 UTC
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Post by Nutmegger
"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Post by Xyzzy
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
That's no problem.
I do wonder about this. With central power locks, is this really
necessary?
No, not really.
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
If I was a girl, I'd be thinking to myself "Dude! How come you can't
afford
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
a decent car with central locking?". Maybe this is because I'm thinking
like
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
a guy :)
Well then I must think like a guy too because I thought the same thing!
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
So, do you open the door for her and risk her thinking you haven't
got a good car with central locking, or do you unlock the door from the
driver's side and risk looking rude?
Recently, a man who does have central locking opened my door for me first,
but then I was trying to figure out how to open his for him and I pressed
the wrong button and locked him out. So much for that.
It did impress me though, that he thought of doing it regardless, although
even if he just used his central locking that would've been fine too.
You know that really irks me.

This is supposed to be called chivalry but really it's nothing more than
being a manservant.

When and where can I expect a woman to open doors for me?

Oh yeah the gender stereotype rules apply here. So much for equalty.


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2003-12-12 04:59:05 UTC
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the same thing that is up with the crossposting noodle head
Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
2003-12-12 05:04:04 UTC
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Post by Steve Chaney, NR's Tormentor ®
Post by Nutmegger
Recently, a man who does have central locking opened my door for me
first, but then I was trying to figure out how to open his for him and I
pressed the wrong button and locked him out. So much for that.
It did impress me though, that he thought of doing it regardless,
although even if he just used his central locking that would've been
fine too.
You know that really irks me.
This is supposed to be called chivalry but really it's nothing more than
being a manservant.
When and where can I expect a woman to open doors for me?
As soon as they work out how the central locking controls on the driver's
door works ;b Personally, I prefer it when they open their tops for me :D
miguel
2003-12-12 05:26:47 UTC
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Post by Steve Chaney, NR's Tormentor ®
Post by Nutmegger
"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
Post by Xyzzy
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
That's no problem.
I do wonder about this. With central power locks, is this really
necessary?
No, not really.
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
If I was a girl, I'd be thinking to myself "Dude! How come you can't
afford
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
a decent car with central locking?". Maybe this is because I'm thinking
like
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
a guy :)
Well then I must think like a guy too because I thought the same thing!
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
So, do you open the door for her and risk her thinking you haven't
got a good car with central locking, or do you unlock the door from the
driver's side and risk looking rude?
Recently, a man who does have central locking opened my door for me first,
but then I was trying to figure out how to open his for him and I pressed
the wrong button and locked him out. So much for that.
It did impress me though, that he thought of doing it regardless, although
even if he just used his central locking that would've been fine too.
You know that really irks me.
This is supposed to be called chivalry but really it's nothing more than
being a manservant.
When and where can I expect a woman to open doors for me?
Way to focus on the important things in life, pussy.
Post by Steve Chaney, NR's Tormentor ®
Oh yeah the gender stereotype rules apply here. So much for equalty.
miguel
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2003-12-13 16:28:55 UTC
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Post by Nutmegger
"Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th
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Post by Xyzzy
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
That's no problem.
I do wonder about this. With central power locks, is this really
necessary?
No, not really.
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
If I was a girl, I'd be thinking to myself "Dude! How come you can't
afford
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
a decent car with central locking?". Maybe this is because I'm thinking
like
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
a guy :)
Well then I must think like a guy too because I thought the same thing!
Post by Esperanto-speaking undead zombie porcupine-dodo from the 7.56391th dimension and teleportation expert
So, do you open the door for her and risk her thinking you haven't
got a good car with central locking, or do you unlock the door from the
driver's side and risk looking rude?
Recently, a man who does have central locking opened my door for me first,
but then I was trying to figure out how to open his for him and I pressed
the wrong button and locked him out. So much for that.
It did impress me though, that he thought of doing it regardless, although
even if he just used his central locking that would've been fine too.
You know that really irks me.
This is supposed to be called chivalry but really it's nothing more than
being a manservant.
When and where can I expect a woman to open doors for me?
Last weekend was the first time a woman opened a door for me and only
because it was a locked automatic door and she was a guard in the lobby.
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2003-12-12 04:02:46 UTC
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Post by Little Monster
I don't see why this should be too difficult for most "regular jock's"
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
That's no problem.
But the problem is the fine line that "good" men are expected to walk --
Like this one: " Not opinionated". Ok, so she wants a drone.
Doesn't want a man that thinks, in other words.
Annie
2003-12-14 02:38:43 UTC
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The poor freakin' bitch is obviously delusional...............not playing
with a full deck
Post by Little Monster
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
Says what he's feeling
Doesn't ever yell at me
Isn't shy
Isn't conceited
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
(pardon if I have used the term incorrectly, it is american I think)
physique notwithstanding - there are a couple of things that might take a
bit of effort, such as liking (female) shopping for example. I mean,
really, how many guys can honestly say that (pysique notwithstanding) more
than, say, ten things on the list are beyond them? She's describing what
*I* call a "Nice Guy" (unlike the poor fellow described in "A Womans
Thoughts on "Nice Guys"", earlier -uhhg!)
Monster
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
OB
2003-12-14 10:25:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
Got it!!! She's a car thief looking for a partner in crime. Now why
couldn't she just say "wizard with bent paper clip"?
treebeard
2003-12-18 02:43:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Annie
The poor freakin' bitch is obviously delusional...............not playing
with a full deck
Post by Little Monster
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
Says what he's feeling
Doesn't ever yell at me
Isn't shy
Isn't conceited
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
(pardon if I have used the term incorrectly, it is american I think)
physique notwithstanding - there are a couple of things that might
take
Post by Annie
a
Post by Little Monster
bit of effort, such as liking (female) shopping for example. I mean,
really, how many guys can honestly say that (pysique notwithstanding)
more
Post by Little Monster
than, say, ten things on the list are beyond them? She's describing
what
Post by Little Monster
*I* call a "Nice Guy" (unlike the poor fellow described in "A Womans
Thoughts on "Nice Guys"", earlier -uhhg!)
Monster
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
And in return she offers? She has what to offer for all of this?
Roger
Zippy
2003-12-18 07:51:09 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:43:50 -0600, "treebeard"
Post by treebeard
And in return she offers? She has what to offer for all of this?
Her occasional presence, nothing more.
Michaela
2003-12-18 16:58:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Zippy
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:43:50 -0600, "treebeard"
Post by treebeard
And in return she offers? She has what to offer for all of this?
Her occasional presence, nothing more.
But don't slip up, mind.

- Michaela
Robin Catfish
2003-12-14 18:33:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Xyzzy
Post by Little Monster
I don't see why this should be too difficult for most "regular jock's"
Post by Zippy
Opens car doors
That's no problem.
But the problem is the fine line that "good" men are expected to walk --
Most of the desired behavior isn't the problem. It's her shallow
"Abercrombie" fashionboy BS turns me off. Okay, I look like a hippy -
ponytail, beard, bluejeans.
I can tell she's not my type. Looks don't matter as much as "type."

Rob
Dennis B
2003-12-12 01:44:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Little Monster
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is a
typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on the
list simply because she has vagina.
[snip]
I don't see why this should be too difficult for most "regular jock's"
(pardon if I have used the term incorrectly, it is american I think)
physique notwithstanding - there are a couple of things that might take a
bit of effort, such as liking (female) shopping for example. I mean,
really, how many guys can honestly say that (pysique notwithstanding) more
than, say, ten things on the list are beyond them? She's describing what
*I* call a "Nice Guy" (unlike the poor fellow described in "A Womans
Thoughts on "Nice Guys"", earlier -uhhg!)
Monster\
Hope y'all realize that if you go through that list, there are about a
half dozen things than totally contradict each other. She wants him to
flirt with her "in public and private," but not think about sex. Come
again? She wants him paying total attention to her in every respect,
but be hard working and focused on his job at the same time. Huh?
These are just two contradictions. Can anyone spot the others? It's
like that old Beatles song that says: "I want a short haired girl who
sometimes wears it twice as long."
Michaela
2003-12-14 13:30:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dennis B
Post by Little Monster
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel
is a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects
everything on the list simply because she has vagina.
[snip]
I don't see why this should be too difficult for most "regular
jock's" (pardon if I have used the term incorrectly, it is american
I think) physique notwithstanding - there are a couple of things
that might take a bit of effort, such as liking (female) shopping
for example. I mean, really, how many guys can honestly say that
(pysique notwithstanding) more than, say, ten things on the list are
beyond them? She's describing what *I* call a "Nice Guy" (unlike
the poor fellow described in "A Womans Thoughts on "Nice Guys"",
earlier -uhhg!)
Monster\
Hope y'all realize that if you go through that list, there are about a
half dozen things than totally contradict each other. She wants him to
flirt with her "in public and private," but not think about sex. Come
again? She wants him paying total attention to her in every respect,
but be hard working and focused on his job at the same time. Huh?
These are just two contradictions. Can anyone spot the others? It's
like that old Beatles song that says: "I want a short haired girl who
sometimes wears it twice as long."
I never saw that. How observant of you! Yet more proof that people
don't know what they want. And want what they can't have.

But the truth of what she wants is in-between all of what she says.

Timing is key.

She wants him to flirt with her sometimes and not think about sex
at other times. But he has to mix it up a little bit. And mostly on
his own terms. If he is too considerate of her she'll bore quickly.

- Michaela
theoneflasehaddock
2003-12-11 19:56:38 UTC
Permalink
Subject: She doesn't want much in a man...
Date: 12/11/2003 5:41 AM Eastern Standard Time
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
The first requirement, that a man be both 5'8" and taller, is a physical
impossibility. It is not possible for one man to be both 5'8" and taller than
5'8". Either she's insane and/or stupid, or she's intending to find more than
one man to make sure she gets all of these qualities, which would explain why
things on the list are redundant in some places.


theoneflasehaddock
Sir Jessy of Anti
2003-12-11 23:21:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by theoneflasehaddock
Subject: She doesn't want much in a man...
Date: 12/11/2003 5:41 AM Eastern Standard Time
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
The first requirement, that a man be both 5'8" and taller, is a physical
impossibility. It is not possible for one man to be both 5'8" and taller than
5'8". Either she's insane and/or stupid, or she's intending to find more than
one man to make sure she gets all of these qualities, which would explain why
things on the list are redundant in some places.
I vote stupid.
Post by theoneflasehaddock
theoneflasehaddock
theoneflasehaddock
2003-12-15 04:15:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sir Jessy of Anti
I vote stupid.
You and nearly half of all Americans who vote. It's a serious problem.

Personally, I usually like to vote insane, but that's just me.

-
theonflasehaddock
Whisper
2003-12-15 11:18:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by theoneflasehaddock
Post by Sir Jessy of Anti
I vote stupid.
You and nearly half of all Americans who vote. It's a serious problem.
Personally, I usually like to vote insane, but that's just me.
Seriously, who cares what 'she' wants? What matters is can she cook, is she
physically beautiful, has she got a real job (ie big $), will she hold her
toungue & be 1st to apologize for getting you angry etc....?
slave to snuff
2003-12-15 17:33:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Whisper
Post by theoneflasehaddock
Post by Sir Jessy of Anti
I vote stupid.
You and nearly half of all Americans who vote. It's a serious problem.
Personally, I usually like to vote insane, but that's just me.
Seriously, who cares what 'she' wants? What matters is can she cook, is she
physically beautiful, has she got a real job (ie big $), will she hold her
toungue & be 1st to apologize for getting you angry etc....?
'SHE' should just kick your fucking ass till you find way back to reality!!!
Zippy
2003-12-16 08:35:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by slave to snuff
Post by Whisper
Post by theoneflasehaddock
Post by Sir Jessy of Anti
I vote stupid.
You and nearly half of all Americans who vote. It's a serious problem.
Personally, I usually like to vote insane, but that's just me.
Seriously, who cares what 'she' wants? What matters is can she cook, is she
physically beautiful, has she got a real job (ie big $), will she hold her
toungue & be 1st to apologize for getting you angry etc....?
'SHE' should just kick your fucking ass till you find way back to reality!!!
Then 'she' would probably get *her* fucking ass kicked all the way to
the end of the street.

Then cow-cunts like you would complain about "domestic violence".
theoneflasehaddock
2003-12-17 02:54:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Whisper
Post by theoneflasehaddock
Post by Sir Jessy of Anti
I vote stupid.
You and nearly half of all Americans who vote. It's a serious problem.
Personally, I usually like to vote insane, but that's just me.
Seriously, who cares what 'she' wants? What matters is can she cook, is she
physically beautiful, has she got a real job (ie big $), will she hold her
toungue & be 1st to apologize for getting you angry etc....?
Itchy fucking beaver? You formed an email address so that all of
fcking usenet knows you have a bloody rodent you won't give some
fucking calamine lotion too, on accounta you've got it all lubing up
your ass, you fucking magic anal gobler.

-
theoneflasehaddock
Michaela
2003-12-11 21:43:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
Nope. It's because she *thinks* she knows what she wants, but I
am convinced that if she did get it all she'd be bored in 15 minutes.

We want what we can't have...
Post by Zippy
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Little bit of irony here, considering this list...
Post by Zippy
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
This is hilarious. I'm leaving it intact for future reference.

You know, under the right (wrong) circumstances a girl would dump
a guy for any or all of the above. It's all in the perception...

- Michaela
Pumpkinhead
2003-12-11 22:19:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michaela
This is hilarious. I'm leaving it intact for future reference.
You know, under the right (wrong) circumstances a girl would dump
a guy for any or all of the above. It's all in the perception...
It probably all depends on what part of the menstrual cycle she's on.
The Babaloughesian
2003-12-11 23:18:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pumpkinhead
Post by Michaela
This is hilarious. I'm leaving it intact for future reference.
You know, under the right (wrong) circumstances a girl would dump
a guy for any or all of the above. It's all in the perception...
It probably all depends on what part of the menstrual cycle she's on.
I think there have actually been studies showing that when women are at
their most fertile, they have higher* standards.

--
*though "higher" in this case has to do with greater occurrence of a
specific set of traits like fluctuating asymmetry, testosterone levels,
sperm count, etc. that the woman doesn't perceive directly, but rather
interprets indirectly as "attractiveness"
Michaela
2003-12-12 14:33:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Babaloughesian
Post by Michaela
This is hilarious. I'm leaving it intact for future reference.
You know, under the right (wrong) circumstances a girl would dump
a guy for any or all of the above. It's all in the perception...
I think there have actually been studies showing that when women are at
their most fertile, they have higher* standards.
Does their (our) fertility correlate with horniness?
If so, then standards would be sure to drop if
anything.

- Michaela
Steve Chaney, NR's Tormentor ®
2003-12-11 22:03:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
^^^^ contradiction in terms
Post by Zippy
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
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By forging me NR admits he is my puppet
Pissed Off
2003-12-12 01:33:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
Post by Zippy
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
<snip>

Nationality has nothing to do with it--Rachel is the typical CUNT. This is
precisely why I don't even bother with dating anymore.
Mr. Teatime
2003-12-12 01:54:41 UTC
Permalink
what she wants is this, what she deserves is a beating.
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
Post by Zippy
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
The Babaloughesian
2003-12-12 02:02:13 UTC
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Post by Mr. Teatime
what she wants is this, what she deserves is a beating.
LOL. Your comedic talents are wasted on Usenet.
Post by Mr. Teatime
Post by Zippy
NoMarriage.com
Rachel's "Perfect Guy" Qualities List
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Post by Zippy
Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is
a typical American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on
the list simply because she has vagina.
5'8" and taller
Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
Handsome
Muscular
Weight depending on height - not skinny, not fat
Good sense of humor
Dimples
Cute laugh
Sensitive
*Affectionate* in front of friends
Gives me lots of attention
Outgoing
Popular but doesn't know the whole state
Friends with my friends
Nice smile
Straight teeth
No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
Pierced ear(s) if any
Not too many tattoos if any
Likes to cuddle
Likes to party
Takes me out
Grabs my hand to hold
Kisses me unexpectedly
Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
Has a good job
Tells me he misses me when we're not together
Makes me laugh
Open minded
Polite
Holds doors for me
Opens car doors
*Romantic*
Likes all type of music
Likes going to the movies
Talks to his friends about me
Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
Gives massages without me having to ask
Plays with my hair
Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
Says what he's feeling
Has a car
Has a dog
Has a family that likes me
Compliments me
Is tan
Doesn't curse all the time
Wants to be with me as much as possible
Comes over unexpectedly
Wakes me up with a kiss
Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
*Trustworthy*
Patient
Likes to shop
Has good manners
Doesn't smoke
Occasionally drinks
Athletic
Is on time for dates
Calls back later when he says he will
Lives close to me
Wants to meet my family
Treats me like a princess
Has a cute butt
Good kissable lips
Good kisser
Good memory
Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
Intelligent
Has direction
Creative
Likes everything about me
Committed
*My best friend*
Respectful
Mature
Persistent - Hard working
Likes walks on the beach
Likes just staying home sometimes
Writes me songs/poems
Likes to dance
Has a sexy voice
Cooks for me
Likes to show me off
Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
Likes to take pictures
Flirts with me in public and in private
Puts up with my mood swings
Comforts me when I'm sad
Doesn't say "sorry" all the time when it's not needed
Sticks up for me
Likes animals
Sends me flowers for no reason
Ignores my imperfections
Surprises me (good surprises)
Doesn't ever yell at me
Likes picnics
Likes to clean
First to say I Love You
Listens to me
Smells good
*Doesn't lie*
Likes kids
Makes me the center of his world
Not in trouble with the law
Isn't a goody-goody
Doesn't stare at other girls
Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
Doodles our names on paper
Likes to draw
Leaves notes on my car
Let's me go out with him and his friends
Will hang out with me and my friends
Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
Gets jealous but not too jealous
Dependable
Doesn't hang up on me
Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
Calls me cute pet names
Isn't conceited
Isn't a penny-pincher
Likes sports and going to sports events
Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
Doesn't play mind games
Doesn't just think about sex
Cares about world issues
Doesn't make me cry
Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
Isn't shy
Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
Not opinionated
Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
Can spell
Robin Catfish
2003-12-14 18:42:04 UTC
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Post by Mr. Teatime
what she wants is this, what she deserves is a beating.
Only a cowardly faggot beats up chicks. Just walk on by the bad ones
and buzz in on the good ones. there are lots of cool ladies out there.

Robert Beauregard "Catfish" T.
Michaela
2003-12-14 22:13:45 UTC
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Post by Robin Catfish
Post by Mr. Teatime
what she wants is this, what she deserves is a beating.
Only a cowardly faggot beats up chicks. Just walk on by the bad ones
and buzz in on the good ones. there are lots of cool ladies out there.
Robert Beauregard "Catfish" T.
The world isn't divided into good and bad people.

- Michaela
Robin Catfish
2003-12-15 05:41:43 UTC
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Post by Michaela
Post by Robin Catfish
Post by Mr. Teatime
what she wants is this, what she deserves is a beating.
Only a cowardly faggot beats up chicks. Just walk on by the bad ones
and buzz in on the good ones. there are lots of cool ladies out there.
Robert Beauregard "Catfish" T.
The world isn't divided into good and bad people.
- Michaela
Sure it is. Some things are simple. Woman beaters are cowards and
losers. That's the word from the Catfish!

Rob
Raul
2003-12-19 15:30:57 UTC
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Post by Robin Catfish
Sure it is. Some things are simple. Woman beaters are cowards and
losers. That's the word from the Catfish!
And I assert that sex outside marriage is evil.

None gives a shit about your moral codes. Kindly keep them to yourself.
The Danimal
2003-12-19 20:50:04 UTC
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Post by Robin Catfish
Post by Michaela
The world isn't divided into good and bad people.
The world is divided into (a) Usenet addicts and (b) normal
people.
Post by Robin Catfish
Post by Michaela
- Michaela
Sure it is. Some things are simple. Woman beaters are cowards and
losers. That's the word from the Catfish!
If they are "cowards" why don't they fear punishment from the law?
The modern legal climate, at least where I live, is not favorable
to men who beat women (or for any other type of domestic
disturbance---I know a guy who spent a night in jail because
he had an argument with his brother and he threw a Christmas
tree). While I don't admire the courage of people who are
brave enough to break the law despite a high probability
of getting punished, I have to admit they are braver than I am.
I would be afraid to go to prison and suffer all the consequences.

If they are "losers" why do they have women who keep coming back
for more beatings? There are lots of guys who can't even get those
same women to give them their phone numbers.

Surely men who beat women have character flaws you can accurately
malign them for---how about their lack of tolerance and
compassion, and their inability to control their anger?
Calling them "cowards" and "losers" does not make sense.
The problem with men who beat women is they are *too*
courageous to fear the law and *too* successful at manipulating
women, i.e., they are the opposite of what you accuse them of being.

-- the Danimal
la n.
2003-12-19 21:07:03 UTC
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Post by The Danimal
Surely men who beat women have character flaws you can accurately
malign them for---how about their lack of tolerance and
compassion, and their inability to control their anger?
Calling them "cowards" and "losers" does not make sense.
The problem with men who beat women is they are *too*
courageous to fear the law and *too* successful at manipulating
women, i.e., they are the opposite of what you accuse them of being.
My experience ... that is, from what I've seen of relationships
between women and their abusive men, is that - in fact -
once the men *are* busted by the law, they do start taking
this issue seriously. Until then, these men act with pompous
bravado, feeling that they are above the law.

Of course, often the woman has to find the courage to file
charges against her abuser to get the law involved.

la n.
Michaela
2003-12-20 01:03:42 UTC
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Post by la n.
(Robin Catfish) wrote in message >
Surely men who beat women have character flaws you can accurately
malign them for---how about their lack of tolerance and
compassion, and their inability to control their anger?
Calling them "cowards" and "losers" does not make sense.
The problem with men who beat women is they are *too*
courageous to fear the law and *too* successful at manipulating
women, i.e., they are the opposite of what you accuse them of being.
My experience ... that is, from what I've seen of relationships
between women and their abusive men, is that - in fact -
once the men *are* busted by the law, they do start taking
this issue seriously. Until then, these men act with pompous
bravado, feeling that they are above the law.
Of course, often the woman has to find the courage to file
charges against her abuser to get the law involved.
It seems to me that *that* is the whole point: the men can 'read'
their partners and they *know* they don't have the courage
(read: the women lurv them too much or are too intimidated by
them) to get the law involved.
Post by la n.
la n.
- Michaela
la n.
2003-12-20 03:53:14 UTC
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Post by Michaela
Post by la n.
(Robin Catfish) wrote in message >
Surely men who beat women have character flaws you can accurately
malign them for---how about their lack of tolerance and
compassion, and their inability to control their anger?
Calling them "cowards" and "losers" does not make sense.
The problem with men who beat women is they are *too*
courageous to fear the law and *too* successful at manipulating
women, i.e., they are the opposite of what you accuse them of being.
My experience ... that is, from what I've seen of relationships
between women and their abusive men, is that - in fact -
once the men *are* busted by the law, they do start taking
this issue seriously. Until then, these men act with pompous
bravado, feeling that they are above the law.
Of course, often the woman has to find the courage to file
charges against her abuser to get the law involved.
It seems to me that *that* is the whole point: the men can 'read'
their partners and they *know* they don't have the courage
(read: the women lurv them too much or are too intimidated by
them) to get the law involved.
I think that is why more information about the battering
syndrome and violence in relationships is disseminated,
the better the chance a woman in an abusive relationship
is going to avail herself of assistance in dealing with the
issue.

Oftentimes, too, a woman can put up with a lot of abuse;
but, when she sees how it is affecting her children, that
is when she will take the steps to leave or press
charges.

In our Canadian province there is The Spousal Assault
Act in which if there is evidence of battering by one partner
against the other, the RCMP can arrest the batterer even
without the victim filing a complaint.

la n.
Michaela
2003-12-21 00:01:05 UTC
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Post by la n.
Post by Michaela
Post by la n.
(Robin Catfish) wrote in message >
Surely men who beat women have character flaws you can accurately
malign them for---how about their lack of tolerance and
compassion, and their inability to control their anger?
Calling them "cowards" and "losers" does not make sense.
The problem with men who beat women is they are *too*
courageous to fear the law and *too* successful at manipulating
women, i.e., they are the opposite of what you accuse them of being.
My experience ... that is, from what I've seen of relationships
between women and their abusive men, is that - in fact -
once the men *are* busted by the law, they do start taking
this issue seriously. Until then, these men act with pompous
bravado, feeling that they are above the law.
Of course, often the woman has to find the courage to file
charges against her abuser to get the law involved.
It seems to me that *that* is the whole point: the men can 'read'
their partners and they *know* they don't have the courage
(read: the women lurv them too much or are too intimidated by
them) to get the law involved.
I think that is why more information about the battering
syndrome and violence in relationships is disseminated,
the better the chance a woman in an abusive relationship
is going to avail herself of assistance in dealing with the
issue.
Oftentimes, too, a woman can put up with a lot of abuse;
but, when she sees how it is affecting her children, that
is when she will take the steps to leave or press
charges.
I never underestimate the power of denial.
Post by la n.
In our Canadian province there is The Spousal Assault
Act in which if there is evidence of battering by one partner
against the other, the RCMP can arrest the batterer even
without the victim filing a complaint.
My knee-jerk response is *Excellent move!* But I haven't
considered the implications.
Post by la n.
la n.
- Michaela
abdul rahim
2003-12-21 05:10:19 UTC
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x-no-archive: yes

loneliness is a cancer


a dreadful, raging cancer that eats at your insides.

a cancer that renders even the busiest single person's life an
exercise in monochrome, free of the vibrant colors that fill the lives
of the happily committed.

it is a cancer that has consumed me for years, a cancer that i cannot
defeat. a cancer that exterminates hope and feeds your despair.

BrendaLee
2003-12-19 23:04:42 UTC
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Post by The Danimal
Post by Robin Catfish
Post by Michaela
The world isn't divided into good and bad people.
The world is divided into (a) Usenet addicts and (b) normal
people.
Heh...
Post by The Danimal
Post by Robin Catfish
Post by Michaela
- Michaela
Sure it is. Some things are simple. Woman beaters are cowards and
losers. That's the word from the Catfish!
If they are "cowards" why don't they fear punishment from the law?
Many beaters bank on the fact that their antics will not be reported.
And most from what I've read, are not. Or that the woman will take back
the charges after he has had sufficient time to work on her... or wear
her down.
Post by The Danimal
The modern legal climate, at least where I live, is not favorable
to men who beat women (or for any other type of domestic
disturbance---I know a guy who spent a night in jail because
he had an argument with his brother and he threw a Christmas
tree). While I don't admire the courage of people who are
brave enough to break the law despite a high probability
of getting punished, I have to admit they are braver than I am.
I would be afraid to go to prison and suffer all the consequences.
These consequences you speak of... perhaps they might be just what the
doctor ordered for said bully types.
Post by The Danimal
If they are "losers" why do they have women who keep coming back
for more beatings?
Hardly any man is brave enough to strike a woman he does not know. Or
going a step farther - know well.
Hitting starts when he(or she)is confident that the other is trapped. Be
it legally by marriage, children, or a host of other entanglements. More
often than not they will return to the attacker simply because there is
no other place for them to go. And often they are not able to pick up
and start over.
I would say going back is seldom by choice.. Though it certainly does
appear that way in many instances.
Post by The Danimal
There are lots of guys who can't even get those
same women to give them their phone numbers.
Many women are probably scared for their lives. Or the life of the man
asking for the number.
Post by The Danimal
Surely men who beat women have character flaws you can accurately
malign them for---how about their lack of tolerance and
compassion, and their inability to control their anger?
This is true. Many have a hair trigger to their anger. Some are under
the influence, be it drugs or alcohol.
Some have been beat themselves and cannot see any other way, so they
repeat what they know.
Post by The Danimal
Calling them "cowards" and "losers" does not make sense.
They need help. For many, that help comes too little too late.
Post by The Danimal
The problem with men who beat women is they are *too*
courageous to fear the law and *too* successful at manipulating
women, i.e., they are the opposite of what you accuse them of being.
The fear of going to jail stops much of what would probably be going
down behind closed doors.

As a child I remember many a time listening to my father shouting in
full spectrum language how he would "wipe the floor with the &*&*&
cops". Let em come!

And when they knocked on the door minutes later he was nice as pie to
them.

BrendaLee
Post by The Danimal
-- the Danimal
--
~~~~~~
BrendaLee
RFA President – The Lady DreamCatcher
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/


Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise
will, sooner or later, have to find time for illness.
---Edward Stanley, Earl of Derby, 1873
Robin Catfish
2003-12-21 02:20:12 UTC
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Post by The Danimal
Post by Robin Catfish
Post by Michaela
The world isn't divided into good and bad people.
The world is divided into (a) Usenet addicts and (b) normal
people.
Post by Robin Catfish
Post by Michaela
- Michaela
Sure it is. Some things are simple. Woman beaters are cowards and
losers. That's the word from the Catfish!
If they are "cowards" why don't they fear punishment from the law?
Because the "law" doesn't do very much & woman beaters are also
fucking stupid assholes too.
Post by The Danimal
If they are "losers" why do they have women who keep coming back
for more beatings? There are lots of guys who can't even get those
same women to give them their phone numbers.
One of the great mysteries dude. But I still think they are fucking
cowardly cunts.

Rob
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