Despite her self-proclaimed "prowess" in debate, Pork2000 can't debate at
As soon as you post something she doesn't like or can't answer, she will
out a fairly predictable response or set of responses. For your
have collected these responses and called them "Stupid Pork Tricks." I have
identified them by number, so you can simply refer to the number of the
trick the next time she uses it.
Or, reprint the whole list! Feel free to suggest additions to the list; I
will post updates periodically.
As you can see, Pork-o's predicable replies could probably be automated by a
fairly simple algorithm. It probably would not even require artificial
intelligence to design the algorithm. :-D
When someone posts something in soc.men, Pork2000 will do one or more of the
1. change the wording,
2. call you a "linear thinker,"
3. insist that no proof is necessary because it is "common sense,"
4. claim she never said what she said,
5. ask totally foolish and irrelevant questions as a vain attempt at
6. change the subject,
7. accuse you of defamation,
8. claim you are incompetent in your profession,
9. berate the members of your family,
10. post more lies,
11. claim that nothing is simple (in the same post that she says something
12. refer to a nonexistent "judge,"
13. give you anecdotes about her friends,
14. give you anecdotes about her "daughter,"
15. claim that women comprise "just over 51% of eligible voters" in the USA,
16. claim that women can do everything men can do PLUS gestate,
17. claim that boys can't BE boys,
18. claim that boys have behavior problems,
19. call women who disagree with her "Pussy Keeper chattel,"
20. refer to her "patriarchal poppa" and then claim that she does not hate
21. rant about how she, a "humble pizza person," can defeat you in debate
(despite her having made a complete fool of herself),
22. state that you never asked her a question that required her to prove
anything, cite to any text, or offer any evidence (often in the same posting
when she has demanded proof),
23. tell you that you will have to live a "Taliban existence,"
24. tell you something "is what it is,"
25. tell you that you will have to get a bride from Thailand or Russia
while berating Thai and Russian women),
26. tell you that the only wife you will ever have will be "inflatible,"
27. claim that you don't know the difference between a human fetus and a
28. equate sperm to human embryos and human fetuses,
29. claim that the human fetus is a "parasite,"
30. LIE that "2/3 of embryonic attachments spontaneously abort,"
31. say that she has NO GREATER DUTY to provide any proof,
32. tell you she knows the candidate for whom you will vote,
33. proceed to disparage the above-named candidate,
34. make repeated, unnecessary, and untrue statements about how you work for
your father's law firm, thus defaming you in your profession,
35. make some stupid remark about "that and $3 will buy a cuppa,"
36. tinell you about the abortifacient herbs she is growing in her garden,
37. refer to her "life's work" (i.e., spreading misandry),
38. claim that she does not read material on Web sites for which URLs are
posted in soc.men,
39. accuse you of copyright infringement,
40. accuse you of "stealing" another's words,
41. defend her own plagiarism by claiming it's OK because "everyone does
42. claim that she has never once said anything hateful about men, boys, or
43. denigrate your religion,
44. refer to Paul, the great Christian Apostle, as a "misogynist,"
45. report that vast numbers of women are joining "wicca" and "egalitarian"
churches, but fail to offer any support for this claim,
46. refer to women who are Christians as "double dippers," despite the fact
that Pork-a-dork doesn't even know them,
47. deny that she comes here to disrupt discussion and harass men,
48. tell you about some "artificial womb" research in the UK, only to deny
49. tell you about her "friend" who kept killing her unborn children until a
"girl" was conceived in her womb and then proceeded to dump her husband,
50. tell you about how "equal" and "fair" family [destruction] courts are,
51. spout the old "primary caregiver" nonsense,
52. refer to "what's between their legs" ad nauseum,
53. make totally inaccurate statements using legal terms of art,
54. whine about how "pre-Christians" killed the "goddess,"
55. refer to "penis standards,"
56. refer to "penis-coated glasses,"
57. call you a "misogynist,"
58. demonstrate a fixation on the male genitals,
59. refer to a "potty patrol,"
60. say "there is NO child until there is a child,"
61. spout worthless tautologies,
62. glory in the fact that she and her mate are not married but, instead,
63. accuse you of not knowing what words mean,
64. criticize you for mentioning what you do for a living, while claiming to
have had "careers" and "positions" that she is obviously incompetent ever to
65. ask, "do you have a case?",
66. say smugly, "Well, I'd have to see a case about . . .",
67. refer to "Johnny Spermalseed,"
68. rant about some nonexistent California "castle law,"
69. mention "constitutional" rights, as if they were the only kind of rights
70. claim to hear a "death rattle" of patriarchy, while fully enjoying the
benefits and protections of patriarchy,
71. imply threats because she "packs her own 'heat',"
72. claim that "all doctors" know something (with absolutely no factual
for her claim),
73. denounce other races and ethnic groups while simultaneously denying that
she is a racist or ethnocentrist,
74. ask to "whose morality" you refer,
75. ask to "whose truth" you refer,
76. claim that everything is relative (not realizing that such a claim is
77. beg the question,
78. ignore the counter-argument,
79. confuse cause and effect,
80. spout "correlation does not equal causation" mindlessly,
81. state that "POVERTY causes crime" (again, with no facts to prove this
82. claim that fathers are not important in their children's lives,
83. accuse you of not understanding the difference between CIVIL RIGHTS and
mere social choices,
84. pretend not to be female,
85. claim that women have NO GREATER DUTY not to bash men (with no
about how this statement relates to anything under discussion),
86. assert, with no proof whatsoever, that many more women have died in
childbirth than all men who have died in all wars in the history of the
87. ignore feminist hate propaganda, even when you point it out to her,
88. claim, without support, that all women are feminists just because they
happen to vote or own property,
89. pretend not to know who her other aliases are,
90. denounce C4M, while supporting abortion on demand,
91. imply that children are property,
92. dismiss your comments as a "denigration attempt," when you post
that she can't refute,
93. dismiss your comments as "denigration alone," when you post something
she can't refute,
94. when faced with a question with the word dogma in it, she usually
"my karma ran over my dogma......",
95. uses silly analogies to distract from the real debate and to twist it
whatever serves her purpose,
96. when defeated in a debate, which has happened many, many, many times
on Soc. Men, Parg never admits to it,
97. whine about your alleged "self-aggrandizement," merely because she has
debate and no legal credentials,
98. commit defamation per se in numerous formats,
99. conclude that men named as suspects of crimes have been convicted of
crimes, before the men even go to trial--or, enter a plea,
100. misstate the law regarding pleas of nolo contendere,
101. spout all that infernal "pinhead" nonsense (my apologies to Gilbert
102. chortle, "there is no *there* there," or "oops, there it is" with no
substance to support such foolishness,
103. post copied text from news articles with no attribution and claim
use," despite the blatant plagiarism,
104. accuse others of having multiple soc.men identities to cover up her
attempts to disguise her own use of aliases,
105. disparage as "bitter boys" all who disagree with her, even if they
to be female,
106. make all sorts of reckless generalizations about the law and fail to
offer any proof of them,
107. lie to people from countries other than the USA about the law in the
108. refer to foreign women as "green card whores,"
109. claim that men who disagree with her want women to "babysit" their
110. downplay the harm to children of statutory rape, especially when women
commit statutory rape against boys,
111. demonstrate a morbid fixation for "inflatable women,"
112. spout utterly meaningless nonsense about "bodies and wallets,"
113. commit the logical fallacy of appealing to authority,
114. commit the logical fallacy of post hoc, ergo propter hoc,
115. ignore the growing mountains of data that establish that
116. promote lesbian, out-of-wedlock child bearing as an ideal,
117. disparage her own deceased father,
118. claim that sperm has no "intrinsic value,"
119. disparage single fathers,
120. crow that "women stay,"
121. answer requests for legal citations with claims like "everyone knows
that" or "I am not going to reinvent the wheel for you,"
122. pronounce "there is no case that holds . . ." without offering any
research or competent citation to support that claim,
123. misuse the terms "generic" and "generically,"
124. misuse the terms "patriarch," "patriarchy," and "patriarchal,"
125. equivocate when Michael Snyder demands that she post a citation to a
"study" that is probably merely a figment of her flimsy feminist fantasy,
126. when caught red handed, blurts out meaningless phrases,
127. whine about someone else trying to "shoot the messenger" in a vain
attempt to cover up her complete lack of coherent argument,
128. refer to you as "Bubba,"
129. say "It has been my observation that . . . " immediately prior to
spouting some incredible nonsense,
130. laugh at boy victims of statutory rape and then later deny that she
131. refer to "boys" bringing "soup" to her,
132. slander men with whom she disagrees by claiming that they "bought" or
"had to buy" wives,
133. pronounce "there is no study that shows . . ." without offering any
research or competent citation to support that claim,
134. whine repeatedly that surveys are not as effective as studies, then
to the results of a self-selected survey to make sexist comments about men
135. claim that Manitoba is in Africa,
136. refer to unborn children as "gestation products,"
137. claim we are "evolving," but only to suit her man-hating agenda,
138. call you "hon," in a sarcastic, insincere manner,
139. whine that others have deleted the context of a posting, when she
routinely deletes significant context in a cowardly attempt to hide what
140. claim that sperm is "free,"
141. misrepresent the findings of studies and surveys,
142. refer to a "study" that she just can't seem to be able to find--after
months of being challenged on it,
143. waffle when informed that Manitoba is not in Africa,
144. attempt to draw ridiculous--and legally unsound--parallels between
domestic relations law and product liability law,
145. refer to "free and equal women," while implying that women are stupid,
146. use every known logical fallacy,
147. imply that first woman was impregnated by alien semen that dropped
148. deny that women commit domestic violence,
149. refer to women's acts of domestic violence as "throwing pasta,"
150. recount her made-up tale of her mother "throwing peas" at her father,
151. try to blame Russell Yates for the killings his wife, Andrea Yates,
152. claim that a serial killer filming his activities (as Leonard Lake is
rumored to have done) is the same as a "snuff film,"
153. display a morbid fixation with "snuff films,"
154. make snide remarks about "Strauss and Gelles," while displaying not
a fraction of the intellectual horsepower needed to refute the findings or
attack the methodology of that landmark study of domestic violence,
155. imply some sort of half-baked and incredibly stupid conspiracy theory
that the FBI and other government agencies are hiding "snuff films,"
156. accuse fathers of "sitting on their rights" whenever they suffer from
unfavorable court decision,
157. claim to have been a teacher, many years ago, in addition to the host
other "careers" she has held,
158. claim to have seen a "snuff film" as "evidence" in a murder case,
claiming not to have seen it (uh huh, you read correctly--remember it's
who said it),
159. misuse consistently the terms "vis-a-vis" and "viz,"
160. use the nonsense term "vis,"
161. misuse consistently "who's," when "whose" is correct and "who's" is
162. claim to understand "proximate causation," when her postings make
that she does not have the slightest understanding of the applicable
of the law of negligence,
163. refer to children as a "harm,"
164. blame men for having a shorter average life expectancy than women;
165. defame Russell Yates,
166. defame Dr. Warren Farrell,
167. mangle the quotation of a post so badly that she doesn't even know to
whom she is replying,
168. deny that she is the notorious, man-hating, and discredited
169. kiss up to Mange, "jet," and anyone who identifies himself as a male
170. refer to "virgin sniffings,"
171. shout words in her messages in a completely illogical manner and,
claim she was doing it for "effect" when someone confronts her foolish
172. refer to Africa as an homogenous political unit,
173. disparage other people's religion by referring to "salad-bar
174. claim to have had all of the following careers/jobs:
a. her own business,
b. educational publishing,
d. suntan lotion packer (whatever *that* is supposed to mean),
e. telephone operator,
f. school teacher,
h. political assistant,
i. law clerk (yeah, like that one is believable), and
j. "brief stint" at Laura Scudders (I don't even want to think
175. use the word "control" excessively, often shouting it,
176. post sexist lies like "It's true that women give more of themselves to
children than men give,"
177. post sexist comments like "Because women have kids, they don't seem to
have as much time or patience for violence," as if men do not have kids,
178. refer to the "social contract" in a ridiculous manner,
179. refer to pregnancy as "housing the harm,"
180. use ellipses repeatedly in an erroneous manner,
181. repeatedly misuse "cite,"
182. use "default position" erroneously and with ridiculous frequency,
183. claim, "It takes TWO to 'co-create' a child" (shouting in original),
184. whine, "Women don't have to BE men in order to BE equal" (shouting in
185. misuse the word "limpid,"
186. grin when she refers to men's shorter average life span,
187. threaten Stephen Morgan, in Message ID
188. refer to alleged reports citing alleged statistics, while failing to
provide citations to or titles of those alleged reports,
189. quote Rush Limbaugh, albeit unwittingly,
190. use the tragic terrorist attack of September 11, 2001 shamelessly as a
point of departure for feminist propaganda,
191. post racist and sexist slurs, such as "rich white guys,"
192. write incoherent posts that suggest she is operating under the
of some drugs,
193. make specious attempts at distinguishing women who are pregnant from
women who *remain* pregnant, failing to appreciate the folly of such
194. post incredibly lame attempts at "jokes,"
195. insult prisoners of war by claiming that Andrea Yates is a "POW,"
196. claim, falsely that women only murder people out of "self-defense,"
197. say that the forced wearing of a beard in Afghanistan does not
198. spew victimist nonsense like "whatever men face in Taliban, women are
199. claim that the "male military" prevents women from doing the military
jobs that men do, even though women are supposedly already doing those jobs
(yeah, I know, it doesn't make sense to me either; remember the source is
200. display a morbid and disgusting obsession with fantasies of castration
201. blame the victims of false accusations of rape by posting such garbage
"if men didn't rape, women couldn't accuse them of raping,"
202. excuse female murderers with hateful trash such as "women climb the
mountain [kill people] just to get to the other side,"
203. spout anti-male hate speech like "Why don't more men stick around to
parent and teach?",
204. spew misandrist hate speech such as "After all, isn't it men who
must think about sex every seven seconds?",
205. refer incessantly to "what is between the legs" of someone,
206. suggest that anyone who disagrees with her should "move to
207. claim, when women are not represented as at least 50% of something,
discrimination must be the cause of the lower representation,
208. claim, when men are not represented as at least 50% of something, that
men's lack of interest or motivation must be the cause of the lower
209. steal text from fathers' rights organizations and publications,
210. make all sorts of claims about alleged domestic violence "statistics"
from hospitals and "cop shops," without ever posting a scintilla of evidence
211. spout deliberately sexist and inflammatory garbage, of which an
is "a BOY made my soup today," (shouting in original)
212. quote text deliberately out of context in order to smear "Fathering
213. whine, "scratch and sniff," when thoroughly defeated in debate,
214. make ridiculous and false claims about "what every first year law
215. show her blatant sexism by equating surgery for prostate cancer with
216. refer to Afghanistan needlessly,
217. comment repeatedly on "Fanny Talibanis" (yeah, another Pork-o nonsense
218. claim we live in a "rape culture,"
219. misuse quotation marks repeatedly,
220. lie, by stating that she posted some "study" that showed "men lied
about custody issues,"
221. say that "feminism is ABOUT equal rights" (Pork-o's stupid shouting in
222. fawn over "Chyve Minde,"
223. post "Shame on you," in a classic feminist attempt to shame others,
224. support female promiscuity and adultery,
225. spout vile hatred such as "if a parent NEGLECTS a child by not paying
court ordered support, the parent is not worthy of visiting" (stupid Carol
shouting in original),
225. try to bother us with her bizarre fantasies about women being "kicked
226. whimper, I am losing patience with you, dear,"
227. ask the following moronic question over and over and over again:
you rather be male or female in Afghanistan?",
228. contradict herself in the same paragraph, by saying, "There is no
connection whatsover between the payment of child support and visitation. A
parent MUST pay court ordered support, whether or not they even have been
awarded visitation. AND, any
parent who has NEGLECTED his or her own child thru non-payment of support
usually does not get visitation." (stupid Pork-o shouting in original),
229. offer unintelligible junk like "The Electoral College serves to
cities dictate the resutlt and has nothing to do with the fact that we live
a democracy, and are governed within a republic." (verbatim quotation,
and spelling errors in original),
230. prattle about "sleeping with the enemy,"
231. use "men" and "sexists" interchangeably,
232. lie about other posters sending her "threats" by e-mail,
233. admit that she is female (in Message I.D.
<***@mb-mn.news.cs.com>), then waffle and try to
change the subject when someone confronts her on her admission,
234. refuse to provide a citation or source, saying "Common sense is my
235. assert, with no evidence whatsoever, that "fewer married women than
married men are promiscuous,"
236. post such vile misandrist invective as "So now you want women to be
envious of an overly sensitive, uncontrollable wad of flesh, subject to all
kinds of extrinsic harm....to also be jealous of there very same thing with
ability to function? I don't
fucking think so!",
237. claim, ridiculously, "Every time a woman gets pregnant, Ray, she takes
her life in her hands,"
238. evince a severe--and probably very dangerous--mental disorder with
comments such as "You don't like it; go spread spermicidal jelly on some
like your female intellectual equal," (I think ol' Pork-o is either off her
meds, escaped from the mental hospital, going off the deep end, or all of
239. try to insult her opponents by calling them "pin-dick,"
240. try to insult her opponents by calling them "little feller,"
241. slander George F. Will,
242. spew vile misandrist garbage like the following: "Any society
thatseparates, subjugates and subordinates just over 1/2 of their
isdoomed to end up with dysfunction so that men rape boys and so that boys
whoare humiliated learn to blow up the phallic towers of their enemy,"
243. misname Maya Angelou's book by calling it ""Why Does the Caged
244. support the Superbowl hoax about domestic violence,
245. offer man-hating garbage like "Now you AND YOUR SON can go to Thailand
for service providers, and bring back more American female voters, (stupid
Pork-o shouting in original),
246. post foul misandry, lies, and sick fantasies, such as "Sperm is free;
runs like water into the sea; and, sperm banks make it even more available,
cloning may make it totally useless,"
247. use the World Trade Center terrorism shamelessly to spout her weird
agenda, by saying, "Any society that separates, subjugates and subordinates
just over 1/2 of their population, is doomed to end up with dysfunction so
men rape boys and so that boys who are humiliated learn to blow up the
towers of their enemy,"
248. assert that the Uniform Code of Military justice "adds" to one's
249. say, "Perhaps you are confused about ______,"
250. say, "Translation:", followed by a complete misstatement of what
251. moan, "bitter boys did not arrive here alone,"
252. assert, Men cannot be credited with "conception" on any level,"
253. claim that Deb is a "sock puppet,"
254, threaten to "put a filter on" Hope,
255. lie that T. R. Ellis and Chris Raum are the same person,
256. lie that Steve Imparl is posting from an ISP in the UK,
257. grin at the sexual abuse of girls,
258. say, "Violence is the last resort of the incompetent,"
259. preface a lie with any of the following signal phrases or sentences:
a. "Not so."
b. "There was a study."
c. "You have NO case..."
d. "There is no study..."
e. "There is NO law..."
f. "At my place of business..."
g. "I am an employer and..."
h. "Shame on you for..."
i. "Courts understand that..."
j. "Judges understand that..."
k. "I have [had] an employee who..."
260. trim the headers of a message,
261. talk about how the state should "punish a boy who has used violence to
262. allege she isn't going to "reinvent the wheel" in order to avoid
up her erroneous claims,
263. claim to know a woman who gave birth "10 years into menopause",
264. say anything about "detrimental reliance",
264. say that circumcision of infant boys is not extreme violence,
266. claim, "Women seem pretty content having careers and
children and boys on the side.",
267. say, "The default position is," followed by some absurdity,
268. say sometimes that she has two children, and other times that she has
269. tell others that they are "not logical",
270. tell others that they are "not moral",
271. refer to "phallocentric religions",
272. refer to a "male only god",
273. talk about "postors:,
274. use "paucity" ad nauseam;
Post by Hyerdahl3
Subject: Re: The FACTS about murdered pregnant women; it's male killers
Date: 1/3/2005 11:03 AM Pacific Standard Time
Most men are killed by lack of medical funding.
There's a huge difference between homicides and death by Bush. :-)